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Finnish political parties

Heads up. I *am* going to undo a very _minor_ part of your work, which is very much appreciated.

I note with admiration that you have taken it upon yourself to sort out some of the chaff on the List of political parties article. But even though the task is definitely admirable, I give fair warning that of the half dozen parties you excised from under the Finnish subheading, two were not minor, and I will thusly restore them, soon after your labours come to a cessation.

Finland is a true multiparty system, and therefore the assumption, that there can only be three major parties and all others are minor, is false. In the Finnish system there are no major parties, merely 4-6 medium size ones. Currently there are 5 of those.

Both of the following two (which you excised along with the genuinely small ones) range around both sides of 10% popular support (and this means they are not minor parties, when of the larger three almost never two combined have a simple majority):

Vasemmistoliitto (Left Alliance)
Vihreä Liitto (Green Alliance)

So I am giving you fair warning, that I will be reinstating those two parties under the Finnish entry. I hope that this explanation will avert a useless revert war, and if you have counterarguments to my views, understand that I will wait for such comments for a reasonable time before enacting the reinstatement of those two (decidedly non-minor) parties. -- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen 13:59, Dec 14, 2003 (UTC)

Go ahead. I don't know much about Finnish politics, I'm just by shares of the vote. In this case the source i was using claimed these were 18%, 22%, and 25%, and the others all less than 10%, which I've been using as a cut-off point. Probably in this case I mis-called, even giving my source. Morwen 14:06, Dec 14, 2003 (UTC)

Btw, you can go ahead now. Morwen 14:07, Dec 14, 2003 (UTC)

Done. I understand it is easy to fall into a pattern when undertaking such a major and repetitive task as the one you (to your credit) chose to do. -- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen 14:36, Dec 14, 2003 (UTC)

Thanks very much - though Secretlondon also deserves credit for doing much of the work. Morwen 14:38, Dec 14, 2003 (UTC)

Albanian Politics

Thanks for the articles on Albanian political parties. By the way, there is a page called List of Albania-related articles that I use to keep track of articles on Albania. I would be great if you could link any additions there (or just leave me a note and I'll do it). Dori | Talk 18:49, Dec 14, 2003 (UTC)

Sure, I'll be sure to do that when I'm done. Morwen 18:56, Dec 14, 2003 (UTC)

Thank you. Secretlondon seems to have gotten most of them, I included some others, but if you find any that are not in there, then by all means add them. Dori | Talk 21:26, Dec 14, 2003 (UTC)

Rugby

I've made some changes to the rugby article do you approve G-Man 19:31, 14 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Greens

Hi, I see that it is necessary to fix the Green Entries on the List of political parties. But in my view, Green Party would be the only sane thing to do. What I tried to do with the article is to make it a description of what green parties (all over the world) actually are. It includes a differentiation between Green Parties and green parties, but that's not the important party. Green parties are as unique as social democratic or communist parties, Green in the name or not. So I'm not sure I get what you think is the right thing to do. -- till we *) 23:39, Dec 15, 2003 (UTC)

There are dozens of pages linking to Green Party and expecting a specific one. What we should do, as we do with Socialist Party, and any other number of parties, it cause Green Party to go to a list of green parties, and then have either below it an article about what they are, or a link to the article about them. Even if you want to divert Green Party away from it, I'm not at all sure why you changed Green Party (disambiguation) considering nothing was linking to it apart from this page, which now is broken by your redirect. Morwen 23:42, Dec 15, 2003 (UTC)

By the way, it is still broken, in the sense that I have to scroll down a lot, and you can't fix that by making an inter-page link, because you've seem to have excised the list of parties that are called 'Green Party' but don't fit the Worldwide green party movement; so they have nowhere to go. Morwen 23:44, Dec 15, 2003 (UTC)

Sorry, I came from the greens and not from the parties list, so I didn't know this. Best thing seems to be to make a list of green parties at Green Party (disambiguation) (see also the lists at EFGP and List of Green party issues, made a link to the latter (or to the parties list part of it) would be the best?), and to add a prominent link to the describing article at worldwide green parties. I think it should be an overview article and not something only about Global Greens, so there is no reason why you can't put in the parties that are lost at the moment in that article. -- till we *) 01:07, Dec 16, 2003 (UTC)

Better so? -- till we *) 01:46, Dec 16, 2003 (UTC)

SLightly. I still regard it as better before. Morwen 07:12, Dec 16, 2003 (UTC)

Accents

Thanks for fixing the accent at Music of Serbia and Montenegro. May I suggest adding something to Wikipedia:Special characters about the codes for characters not yet included there? I'd like to be able to write about music from eastern european countries (which seem to have lots of characters I don't know how to type) without ignoring or messing up accents or attempting to find an example to copy-and-paste at the main page to the Latvian Wikipedia, which seems to have most of them. Anyway, thanks! Tuf-Kat 08:17, Dec 16, 2003 (UTC)

I'll think about that. It would certainly be useful. Morwen 17:58, Dec 16, 2003 (UTC)

Gibraltar

Re: Gibraltar, Buckinghamshire My other half is a travel agent, and I turned round to him and said, "where is Gibraltar, is it north or south of the Strait of Gibraltar?" And he said "south". So that's what I wrote on the article.

After you edited it and pointed out my error, I tuirned to him and said "you told me wrong, it's north of the strait, not south", and he said "I never told you that, I said it was north all along..."

Men!

-- Francs2000 18:14, 17 Dec 2003 (UTC)

More Counties

Are you sure Somerset (rump) is a good title for an article? I'm sure no-one has ever used that term before. Somerset (administrative) would be better, but why can't we keep one article which can discuss both the traditional and administrative area? Warofdreams 21:35, 18 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I agree, but if we are forced to wrongly use the present tense when describing ancient county boundaries, then it is better to confine this to as small a place as possible. Note that the Ceremonial county of Somerset still legally contains north-east somerset, bath, and north somerset: that was what i was going by. I am not going to alter that page if you make changes to it. Morwen 21:40, Dec 18, 2003 (UTC)

Numbers

I'd love to do all the numbers. But I think I'll just work on the first 114. -- Anonymous User

Anonymous user 137.94.11.222

As you should be observing, this user is causing a persistent problem in pages related to Indian Independence. I listed him on the vandals list, and he was blocked for a few days (3 to be precise), and now I find he is back. He lost no time, and engaged in his usual antics again. I can't believe somebody actually WAITED to be unblocked to start his tricks. I am not sure I am totally aware of the IP Blocking policy in wikipedia as my age here is just over a month, but I noticed that you are a sys-op, and you must be watching the page.

Since the user uses the network of ROYAL MILITARY COLLEGE, Canada, I guess this IP should be his proxy web address and hence cannot be blocked permanently. But, observing that ALL edits from this IP address over the past one month is from this user (with a negligible margin of doubt), dont you think this ban should last for some more time ? Can you suggest/act on some way to get this user off our necks for a minimum of two weeks? I would really like to throw out people with a totally negative attitude to a co-operative effort (permanently, if need be). Waiting to hear from you. chance 05:16, Dec 19, 2003 (UTC)

He is still rather a minor annoyance, so I am not sure that blocking it permanently or even for a long time would be appropriate. Wait and see. Morwen 07:19, Dec 19, 2003 (UTC)

I guess you are more or less right. Anyways, I am moving to other articles to be a bit more productive. Maybe, I should stop worrying about this fellow for a while and let other people handle him. chance 10:44, Dec 21, 2003 (UTC)

Saudi Anthem

Re Aash Al Maleek - is it possible what was there before was the lyrics? We could incorporate that if so. - Hephaestos 16:01, 19 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I did a comparison and there didn't seem to be enough words. But I agree that's most likely what it is - we need to check though. Morwen 18:17, Dec 19, 2003 (UTC)

Warwickshire

Hello Morwen, seem as we appear to have won the argument over counties, I was wondering if the Warwickshire article could be unprotected 'cause I would like to re-integrate it. G-Man 15:37, 20 Dec 2003 (UTC)

It looks like it already is. Morwen 15:40, Dec 20, 2003 (UTC)

What do you think of it now: by-the-way I think that Warwickshire (traditional) should be put on VFD as it is now an unnecessary duplication do you agree? G-Man 15:54, 20 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Would be easier to just make it a redirect. Looks fine, btw. Morwen 15:55, Dec 20, 2003 (UTC)

Monterrey

I see you've just been over at Monterrey, Mexico. Do you think you could use your sysop superpowers and do the necessary to move that page over to Monterrey: that one is currently a disambig page, but it's disambigging things that aren't ambiguous. Take a look at Talk:Monterrey, Mexico for further rationale. I'd be very grateful if you've got a moment for this. –Hjr 17:00, 20 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Carpe Diem

It's not pov. It's a quotation. :-) Evercat 20:34, 20 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Political history of Canada

Hello. Is Political History of Canada meant to be still protected? The log shows that you unprotected Politics of Canada twice, so I'm wondering if one of those was actually meant to be an unprotection of Political History of Canada. Angela . 00:55, 21 Dec 2003 (UTC)

No - fixed. Thought I had all of them. :( Morwen 09:31, Dec 21, 2003 (UTC)

Thanks for your help re 195.92.168.17x :) Dysprosia 15:15, 21 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Thanks for turning Trym to Thrym. AlainV, on the freshly snowed in afternoon of Sunday December 21 2003

Welcome. You might want to look at the source for how to do it in future, should you ever want to. Morwen 21:12, Dec 21, 2003 (UTC)

I have edited the Holocaust article several time because Holocaust Deniers think Treblinka was not only an extermination camp, but was a center for processing captured Soviet ammunition. We must not allow ourselves to be fooled by Holocaust Deniers like Raul Hilberg, Deborah Lipstadt and others. There is a vast conspiricy afloat, and I stand as a bulwork against the tide of evil, with Knowledge in my right hand and Truth in my left. Cromwell

morwen, i am aware that the wikipedia would not be much use if every word was linked, and i did not link every word, if you bothered to read it you would see, the links are actually quite sparse, i feel you are both overreacting. Steeev 01:21, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Morwen, thank you for your comment on my? IP address page. If this is the wrong place to ask you to read my comment, please forgive me. I will plead ignorance and newness. (Where and how should I contact you?) Please read that page and comment on my ideas there. Thank you. talk:69.138.236.221

LOOK - YOU KEEP ERASING MY STIFF WITH NO EXPLANATION , YOU GONNA GET SOME AGRO STUFF WITH ME. I'VE BEEN HERE 15 MINUTES AND DEADHEADS ARE CRAPPING AROUND WITH ME. SHEESH, WHERE IS YOUR XMAS SPIRIT? I'M VANDALISING THINGS - HUH!

Moon Goddess

Thanks for redirecting the Moon Goddess link. I didn't realize that there was already a lunar deity article. --Lowellian 20:06, Dec 24, 2003 (UTC)

History of Uganda

For a moment there I thought I was going crazy - acting before I was thinking instead of the other way around. Well anyway, thanks for helping out. Cheers, Jia ng

shifting of talk page

thanx for the help. appreciate it. i am kinda new here so didnt know what to do. will be mroe careful in the future. StupiDeity

No worries. Btw, you can sign your name by typing ~ four times! Morwen 21:40, Dec 26, 2003 (UTC)

thanx again :) StupiDeity 21:41, 26 Dec 2003 (UTC)

stubs?

New Milton and Brockenhurst

I noticed you editted both of these - now I've looked around a bit more I have a question. Should these have been stub articles? I do intend to update once I know my other details are correct, I don't want to post misleading entries. Scaree 17:16, 27 Dec 2003 (UTC)

They are long enough that they don't need to be, but short enough they could be. I dunno ;). Morwen 17:18, Dec 27, 2003 (UTC)

Hello Morwen, I've been away for a while so I just thought I'd say hi and happy new year etc. Looks like 80.255 is back again at Warwickshire (yawn) and is obviously determined to ignore the majority verdict and go ahead with his/her counties rampage regardless of what anyone else thinks. This situation clearly cannot go on forever, the Warwickshire article cannot remain permanently protected. G-Man 23:13, 31 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I agree. I consider the use of this code *For the [[administrative county]] of Warwickshire see [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Warwickshire_(administrative)&oldid=1931438 Warwickshire (administrative)]'' - that links to a specific old version of the page, to be no more than vandalism. Morwen 23:19, Dec 31, 2003 (UTC)

Yes, I dont know why 80.255 has decided to pick out Warwickshire for special treatment, when there are numerous other counties where the historic and administrative counties diverge geographically. I have a feeling that 80.255 has some sort of vendetta against me because I've clashed with him/her on numerous occasions in the past, and I have written most of the Warwickshire article.

Personally I think if this malarkey goes on for much longer we will have to conclude that 80.255 has no intention of working co-operatively on a community project, and will have to look at blocking his/her IP adress. Drastic I know, but if being reasonable doesn't work, I dont see any other solution G-Man 23:33, 31 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I am going to wait until the policy is adopted and then see if they violate it. Blocking users is a very very last resort. BTW: Check your email. Morwen 23:39, Dec 31, 2003 (UTC)

Quite, although 80.255 does seem to be in a minority of two. BTW: check you're email G-Man 00:25, 1 Jan 2004 (UTC)

1973 50p

Good grief, how did you find those PRO papers so quickly! Very interesting... Arwel 00:19, 1 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Well, I was up at the time, and thought - oh, I'll just if anything interesting that doesn't need digesting much, is there. ;) Morwen 21:15, Jan 1, 2004 (UTC)

Robert Atkins

Isn't the spelling "dietitian"? Anyway, I think "nutritionist" would probably be better. RickK 21:12, 1 Jan 2004 (UTC)

RE:Your dishonest attempt to fix policy

I shall be going through your "interpretation" of the 'Naming conventions' policy with a fine tooth comb over the next day or so, and I will ensure that it represents exactly what was stated in the motion that was carried and nothing more, so please do not get the impression that your manifold "elbaborations" and additions are now "official policy" - they are not. Kind regards, 80.255 23:01, 1 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Oh yes - and have a happy new year. 80.255

Gloucestershire

Just one thing I've noticed, all of the page history for the Gloucestershire article is at Gloucestershire (rump), you should paste all the current article there and move it back to Gloucestershire to avoid loosing the article history G-Man 14:11, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)

OK I've done it G-Man 14:42, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)

more counties

I've done some work on the county article perhaps you should check it. G-Man 15:52, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)

You should take a look at Buckinghamshire I'm not sure it conforms to policy. I am getting very bored with this counties stuff, hopefully We'll get it sorted soon and we can do something else useful. G-Man 21:43, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)

I'm bored of it too - that's why I'm writing MPs whose surnames start with C. ;) It doesn't seem that bad, just needs rewording a tad. It might be good just doing a triage of all the articles and sticking them on the /status page. Morwen 21:46, Jan 3, 2004 (UTC)

BTW have you checked you're Email G-Man 21:48, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)

I replied to the email you sent me last night, haven't had anything since. Morwen 21:49, Jan 3, 2004 (UTC)

Strange I dont seem to have recieved it, perhaps Its been intercepted by secret government agents or something. Perhaps you should try sending it again G-Man 21:55, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Done. Morwen 21:57, Jan 3, 2004 (UTC)

It still hasn't arrived I'm not sure why. Try copying it and sending it to me via the wikipedia Email G-Man 22:04, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)~

Done. ;) Morwen 22:07, Jan 3, 2004 (UTC)

Yep got it this time and replied, not sure what was wrong G-Man 22:17, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)

I found another reference to the mayor for greater manchester idea here although it is only a draft and I'm not sure how relevant it is http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/jt199899/jtselect/jtlocgov/102/102ap76.htm G-Man 23:33, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Cool. It looks like this is something people are talking about, but the govt have no plans for. But at least we know what the source is now ;) Morwen 23:36, Jan 3, 2004 (UTC)

Sorry for the delayed response, but I have seen the pages on the Earl of Stockton and the Baron Inglewood. I added a little information to the former page, and might do so to the latter one after a while. -- Lord Emsworth 00:25, Jan 4, 2004 (UTC)