Talk:Communist symbolism

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This wikipedia page reflects this talk page, an absolutely biased, ideologically possessed work of propaganda. Any politically neutral volunteers out there, please read below and consider fixing this mess. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.161.67.17 (talk) 05:54, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Needs work

This needs work, and should be as detailed as Anarchist symbolism--Che y Marijuana 01:06, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)

Should the red fist not be mentioned here? It's a pretty common symbol among contemporary communist and socialist movements. Sam 89.242.167.25 12:37, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Are you saying that Black Lives Matter is a Socialist movement? Well, what do we have here, an expert in human psychology! While the fist was appropriated by Socialist causes, it is not a symbol of Socialism. MarioSuperstar77 (talk) 14:09, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Pol Pot

The Pol Pot regime is not considered communist and should not be listed under this article. I personally will not tolerate anti-communism by use of non-neutral tone and vocabulary. -- unsigned comment by TwelveStones 02:38, 29 April 2006

Whatever, dude -- I'm not sure that I really care all that much about the more abstruse and esoteric classifications of your own particular political theology, but no matter what these may happen to be, the state emblem of "Democratic Kampuchea" is still a prime example of the more aesthetically negative side of classsic Communist symbolism (have you ever actually seen it??). If you don't like my wording, then try to come up with better wording, but don't delete relevant information. AnonMoos 13:25, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

NO. The Democratic Kampuchea was not communist. It would be the same as classifying a Buddhist symbol under Christian symbolism. I am removing it, and if you do not stop spreading ideological messages I will report this to a moderator. TwelveStones 15:09, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dude, you're the one who is acting on his personal political theology, and is DELETING RELEVANT INFORMATION. AnonMoos 15:34, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've stated this before. The Democratic Kampuchea is neither considered a socialist state nor a communist movement. It does not belong in this entry. Now as to 'political theology' I am first and foremost here to remove anti-communism, but I support a netural-tone wikipedia. TwelveStones

Dude, how many times do I have to tell you that your personal political theology has no relevance to Wikipedia. Trotsky said that Stalin wasn't a "true" communist, Stalin said that Trotsky wasn't a "true" communist, and you've chosen to personally excommunicate the Khmer Rouge from what you consider to be "true" communism. Unfortunately, that has absolutely no relevance whatsoever to Wikipedia. Meanwhile, I would appreciate it if you would stop deleting factual information. AnonMoos 21:04, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Again, I will make an analogy. You wouldn't put Gnostic symbols in an article devoted to Christian symbolism. If the state isignia of the Democratic Kampuchea were to be included in this article, it would need to go under 'Other communist symbols'. TwelveStones

I really have no interest in your opinions as to whether Pol Pot was a "true" communist, according to your personal political ideology. AnonMoos 16:54, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But you see, there's this thing called the truth. And what do you know, some opinions can be true! It's amazing, I know. If we were to take a textbook definition of Marxism : class struggle leading to the rise of a worker's state, then we could easily see that Khmer Rouge was not a Marxist movement and would not fall under 'communist symbolism' except perhaps under other communist symbols. TwelveStones

You've demonstrated absolutely nothing other than your personal political theology, and your particular individual conclusions about whom you (from your idiosyncratic point of view) choose to regard as being a "true" communicate, or choose to excommunicate from "true" communism -- "true" being relative to your personal opinions, of course. Yawn. AnonMoos 07:24, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If we don't define what 'communism' is first, we can't really have a communist symbolism entry now can we? TwelveStones

You haven't made the slightest attempt to "define" it, but have merely displayed your own personal political ideology. AnonMoos 19:28, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Am I right in thinking that Pol Pot was not recognised as communist by the PRC, USSR and other similar states? Personally I would consider that if true, that (universal lack of recognition by peers) would be enough ground to call it not-communist. Leushenko (talk) 05:06, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A question of political position

User: Political Dweeb here wants to ask a question on how the socialist, social democratic, democratic socialist, communist, left communist, eurocommunist, leninist, Marxist and Trotskyist political parties and movements etc view the red flag in left wing politics.

Do all the political parties and organisations etc of these left wing ideologies see the red flag as representing the blood of the "martyred working-class leaders" that was expressed in the Wikipedia article on communist symbolism? Or to them is the left wing meaning of the red flag not blood but something different like for example change, revolution etc?

I hope someone can help me answer this question, thanks .--Political Dweeb (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 20:19, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"All"? It means whatever they want it to mean. If they want to be popular, "blood of martyrs" hasn't been fashionable since August 2001. Leushenko (talk) 00:14, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Use of 'another' for first listed item

The Article says:

"The hammer and sickle is another symbol of the communist movement."

But the H&S is the first symbol it lists. I think it should say:

"The hammer and sickle is a symbol of the communist movement"The GloriousProletariatRevolution (talk) 08:22, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

- Hammer and sickle is not and never was symbol of communist party. It was symbol of labour class in communistical countries and rather symbol of social demococracy in 19 th century. Formally symbol of communist party was only five-pointed red star althought oldest symbol was red flag (but it was not official symbol of communist party in soviet block)

Open Book and Rifle: Commnist of Fascist?

Just read on the article about Italian fascism that a motto of Fascism in Italy was Libro e moschetto - fascista perfetto, "The book and the musket - make the perfect Fascist."

Now perhaps is a coincidence, but the Mozambique flag has an Open Book and an AK-47 rifle in it. Communist or Fascism symbolism? --Pinnecco (talk) 22:00, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep in mind that all communist leaders as well as Hitler and Mussolini considered themselves revolutionaries, and rightly so according to most historians. Hence, the similarity in symbols.Biophys (talk) 21:28, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

From what I know, fascism is generally considered to be reactionary, not revolutionary, in line with its tendency to glorify the past (The Holy Roman Empire in Nazi Germany, the Roman Empire in fascist Italy) along with its extreme nationalism. However, the issue at hand is not whether both communism and fascism are reactionary, but whether they both used the symbol of the book and gun. It's perfectly possible for it to be both a fascist and a communist symbol, so long as both sides used it. 76.28.97.246 (talk) 17:25, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Removed reference to Soviet flag

Most socialist/communists movements that isn't Marxist-Leninist (or similar) don't recognize the flag of the U.S.S.R as an symbol for communism, and the red flag or as mentioned a party flag is more commonly used. Variants of just hammer and sickle upon flag however may be used but withouth the star, which characterize the soviet flag). --176.11.20.222 (talk) 21:21, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Someone is trying to turn Hop Rock from the tv show Slugterra into a communist symbol, obvious trolling

A troll is attempting to turn the slug species Hop Rock from the tv show Slugterra into a communist symbol out of spite. 2001:12B4:68F:DE01:B0C7:2D47:D492:C7F (talk) 19:23, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]