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POV content

Some of the stuff here could not be considered NPOV.

In particular the sentence about many people converting based on Javanese Hinduism's glorious past.

I also removed the statement about converting several Karonese. Perhaps several (what, three people) were converted, but having lived with Karonese for quite a while, Hinduism is not a religion that is known. This was pretty weak, a bit like saying that Islam is an Eskimo religion because three Eskimos converted.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 147.114.226.172 (talk • contribs).

Naming

Is the name 'Agama Hindu Dharma' used just for Balinese Hinduism, or for Hinduism in Jawa, Kalimantan etc as well? The reason I ask is that I would like to write an article Hinduism in Indonesia, but if this is the same as Agama Hindu Dharma I would make it redirect here. QuartierLatin1968 21:19, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Oh, crap, just when I think I've gotten everything sorted out, it appears that there are also articles Hinduism in Java (island) and Hinduism in Sulawesi. Okay then, I think what we should do in the fullness of time is move most of the regional sections out (except for summaries) with a link to the corresponding detailed articles. We should revitalize the redirect Hinduism in Bali (or Balinese Hinduism) and keep this article for the Indonesia-wide overview. (I'm answering my own question from above, because I've done some research into the subject in the past eleven days!) How does this sound to others? QuartierLatin1968 02:15, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

agama only means religion. Just as bahasa Indonesia translates as Indonesian language, agama Hindu dharma translates as Hinduism and agama Budhi dharma translates as Buddhism. While we're at it, the article needs to mention the traditionlaist/modernist split in the Parisada Hindu Dharma Indonesia in 2001 and the role of Pancasila in the way in which Indonesian Hindus have defined themselves. It is argued, for example, that Indonesian Hinduism's alleged monotheism is an invention to satisfy the pancasila requirements imposed by the RI ministry of religion. Alan 08:40, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand why the article name is in Indonesian. I searched for Hinduism in Indonesia and was directed here. In an English encyclopedia we should use English terms - yes, I know "agama" means religion but it is still non-English. We don't call the Muslim equivalent Agama Muslim in Indonesia. I am not (yet) saying it should be changed, rather seeking infomrmation on the logic of the title. Maybe some think this is an old issue but since I can't see it here, it may be useful for others to know too. --Merbabu 02:59, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, I agree. Let's move to Hinduism in Indonesia. Q·L·1968 ☿ 00:04, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Page moved to Hinduism in Indonesia. Well, actually, I had to a cut and paste as the destination page already existed. I will however copy (not cut) this talk page contents to the new page. --Merbabu 01:21, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Go for it!

make more hindu in the malay archepeliego articles. --Dangerous-Boy

PLEASE DON'T SAY THAT HINDUISM IS A TRANSPORTED RELIGION

SIR/MADAM, As there is no concrete evidence that Hinduism was transported from India.Hinduism cannot be taken through sudden religious jehads..The contacts between Javans and Indians was a two way transport and Hinduism is a religion basaed on interaction.So please avoid the words and phrases which indicate Hinduism is from originally from India.

                                                                                                                         Yours truthfully,
                                                   Pon Dheepankar K,
                                                 M.A Delhi University

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by PONDHEEPANKAR (talk • contribs).

Is there any discussion in the article about how Hinduism came to be in Indonesia? The article is at best limited. --Merbabu 02:59, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hinduism is originally from India, just like Islam is from Arabia, Buddhism from India, etc. Ther's nothing to be ashamed of.Baka man 04:26, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]