Talk:Intertwingularity
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[edit]To me this represents the Wiki itself. The Wiki reveals the interrelations in human knowledge.
- A.
Source
[edit]Admittedly, Computer Lib/Dream Machines isn't the easiest book to scan quickly, but I haven't been able to find this entire line in the book. "Everything is Deeply Intertwingled" appears several times -- can anyone provide an exact location for the entire excerpt? jdb ❋ (talk) 21:23, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
So I do not think it is the full text, but there is a PDF at http://mrl.nyu.edu/~noah/nmr/book_samples/nmr-21-nelson.pdf of the combined Computer Lib/Dream Machines Nessman 15:14, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
- The link in the comment above is no longer accessible. A copy can be found at Internet Archive Wayback Machine. The PDF linked to is an excerpt from the book The New Media Reader. - wneo (talk) 13:12, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
70th Birthday Lecture
[edit]"Ted Nelson's 70th Birthday Lecture" is at Youtube and halfway into part 5 (of 15) he starts to talk about Wikipedia and the limitations of paper and his own views of hypertext. The first 4.5 parts (ten minutes each) are spent on the language of ancient Greece and other interesting but less related stuff. --LA2 (talk) 16:08, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Notability
[edit]I noticed the general notability banner. I'm working on gathering some better sources and might restructure this article. Although I recognize that the word/concept isn't in common usage, I feel that it has had enough underground/pre-internet influence, and a specific relevance to the present. Zoasterboy (talk) 21:44, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
- Well, the page as it currently stands is pretty much just a dictionary definition, and the word looks like it's just a portmanteau of "intertwine" and "intermingle" without really meaning much beyond those words. I can't really see much evidence of it "catching on" as a buzzword or intellectual term. Correct me if I'm wrong - but if I'm not, I wonder whether a soft redirect to Wiktionary, or a redirect to Ted Nelson (the original outcome of the 2003 VfD for this page) might make more sense. Chubbles (talk) 18:26, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
- The term comes up in a bunch of academic work about the internet and computing - check out Google Books search for "intertwingularity" - and it'd be useful to cover that influence in this article. Dreamyshade (talk) 01:18, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
delete?
[edit]This item does not conform to any hierarchical, categorizable or sequential system and therefore must be deleted. =p
- Are you referring to this entire page or something specific on it? Rwardjr228 (talk) 12:39, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
- I believe they don't actually intend for something to be deleted. I think it's a joke, rooted in the definition of the word. However, I somewhat agree with the user "Chubbles" above, that this is serving more as a dictionary definition, and the page should either just forward someone to Ted Nelson, or if we actually find the concept useful enough to have an encyclopedia page that will explain the concept and its functionality (processes, relevant vocabulary, proofs listed in the books for it deserving its own word, etc.) rather than just helping the reader understand that the idea exists. --Susanna Neal (talk) 07:08, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
- Seems to have widespread memetic and applied uses. See also Intertwingler and related tools. – SJ + 00:23, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- I believe they don't actually intend for something to be deleted. I think it's a joke, rooted in the definition of the word. However, I somewhat agree with the user "Chubbles" above, that this is serving more as a dictionary definition, and the page should either just forward someone to Ted Nelson, or if we actually find the concept useful enough to have an encyclopedia page that will explain the concept and its functionality (processes, relevant vocabulary, proofs listed in the books for it deserving its own word, etc.) rather than just helping the reader understand that the idea exists. --Susanna Neal (talk) 07:08, 26 January 2020 (UTC)