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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was delete. —Xezbeth 07:38, May 6, 2005 (UTC)

List of U.S. Presidential trivia not listed anywhere

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While there are some interesting trivia facts here, I think they should be merged into the articles on the individual presidents. This article is pretty clearly a joke, as its mere existence presents a logical paradox. It's almost like people are actively trying to get on BJAODN, which is kind of why i'm opposed to BJAODN in the first place. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 19:12, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)

  • Delete, bad attempt at BJAODN, plenty of other places to put this trivia. Most of the facts "not listed anywhere" already appear on other pages. Plus, at least 2 of these "facts" are false (left as an exercise for other Wikipediholics). RussBlau 19:50, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete, not encyclopedic. RickK 19:52, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Blah - this is ridiculous. Anything listed here that's accurate should be moved onto the appropriate pages. Dpark 22:34, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Merge/Delete. The useful stuff should go on the relevant pages, the rest should be deleted. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 23:34, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)
    • How do we merge it and preserve the edit history for GFDL? RickK 23:43, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)
      • Not needed, IMO. The trivia is no more than a simple list of facts. There is no editorial or creative content. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 23:56, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Pointless list of stuff that should be on pres. pages, (and in some cases already is) and if not is not worth noting at all. Also, mis-spells names of presidents Cleveland and Reagan. No BJAODN. -- 8^D gab 02:21, 2005 Apr 27 (UTC)
  • Delete. Trivial is the opposite of encyclopedic. —Korath (Talk) 03:01, Apr 27, 2005 (UTC)
  • But if they're not listed anywhere, and they are added to this article, then they don't belong in this article and should be removed...but if they're removed from the article, then they belong in the article since they are no longer listed anywhere...delete before my head explodes. --TenOfAllTrades (talk/contrib) 04:44, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Not funny enough for BJAODN. Wile E. Heresiarch 05:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete, trivial and pointless. Megan1967 05:34, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep/Merge. As the author of this trivia list, while I agree that there's something lacking in it, the facts are true. And if a list for the pets & libraries & even height of U.S. Presidents can be retained, I don't understand why a list that includes the lightest and heaviest presidents (weight) among various curious facts should be removed. I suggest that if it looks bad, maybe it should be reformatted or moved/merged instead of deleting it. Maybe I shouldn't have used "not listed anywhere". I wante to convey that the previous trivia lists on U.S. Presidents don't contain the facts mentioned here. Something like "List of Miscellaneous trivia on US Presidents" would have been better I think. --Idleguy 05:38, Apr 27, 2005 (UTC)
    • If these "trivia" facts aren't listed anywhere else, you can insert them in the President of the United States article, which already has a trivia section. As for accuracy – check the Bill Clinton article before you insist that Andrew Johnson was the only President to be impeached. There have actually been three Presidents married while in office; perhaps you meant that Cleveland was the only one to be married inside the White House itself. RussBlau 13:02, Apr 27, 2005 (UTC)
      • Actually these trivia were inserted in the trivia section under the President of the United States article. Just that the trivia mentioned were more odd and one of a kind that I thought would merit a seperate list as it couldn't be accomodated with any of the other trivia lists on US presidents. Yes, I agree I made a mistake with the impeachment thing. That ought be taken off. And I meant Cleveland was the only one to be married in the White House itself. I guess I'll edit the article to reflect the changes.
  • Delete -- and merge any useful info into the relevant articles on presidents. Poorly titled also. - Longhair | Talk 06:13, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • A list of things not listed anywhere - how's that for a paradox? Delete. Radiant_* 13:56, Apr 27, 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. I'm starting to like that phrase "trivia is by definition not encyclopedic". These facts, if relevant, belong in the articles of the respective presidents, not here. Rossami (talk) 00:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Before a decision is taken, I would like to know why a list called List of U.S. Presidents by height order exists. Since it's as trivial, if not more trivial than my list that has the lightest and heaviest US presidents among others. All I did was put it in a concise form and "Delete" is the general consensus. Why, may I ask does a List of US first dogs or nicknames then? Please see the other lists in the trivia section before making up your mind. Like I said the title was badly phrased and a little editing could be welcome to make the list more orderly. But it's double standards when other trivia exists and this list of trivia is sought to be expunged. I think that many just look at the vfd and directly start voting without looking at the article and the sub heading this appears in. I hope the admin takes these things into account before blindly deleting some useful information. --Idleguy 04:57, Apr 29, 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete -- Poor title. As soon as information on this list is 'listed anywhere', this list fails. - Longhair | Talk 04:12, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete, but move all information to President of the United States and to pages for individual presidents as appropriate. — FREAK OF NURxTURE (TALK) 07:12, Apr 30, 2005 (UTC)
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