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The duet is osiris's realm or where the magic or a magick river flows — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.177.22.93 (talk) 12:45, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Under or above the earth

Whether the Duat was above the sky or beneath the earth is an issue that Egyptologists still have not resolved. James P. Allen, in Genesis in Egypt (1989), says there is "an ambivalence in the Egyptian conception of the Duat. On the one hand, the Duat is thought to lie inside Nut's body… This is a concept as old as the Pyramid Texts: 'The sky has conceived him, the Duat has given him birth' (Pyr. 1527a). On the other hand there are indications—equally as old—that the Duat was envisioned as lying beneath the earth. The Pyramid Texts associate the Duat with the earth and its gods Geb and Aker, and the Coffin Texts refer to the 'lower Duat'. This ambiguity is probably no more than a reflection of the fact that the Duat, though part of the world, is inaccessible to the living, outside the realm of normal human experience—though its topography and inhabitants are nonetheless conjectured in great detail in the Amduat and similar funerary 'books'."

Other scholars have looked at it differently, though. Leonard H. Lesko (in his chapter of Religion in Ancient Egypt, 1991) says that the Egyptians saw the sky as a solid canopy and described the sun as traveling through the Duat above the surface of the sky, from west to east, during the night. Joanne Conman (in "It's About Time: Ancient Egyptian Cosmology" in Studien zum Altagyptischen Kultur, 2003) argues that this solid sky is a moving, concave dome overarching a deeply convex earth. The sun and the stars move along with this dome, and their passage below the horizon is simply their movement over areas of the earth that the Egyptians could not see—i.e., the Duat.

Also, I should note that a lot of Egyptologists, not addressing the uncertainty about the location of the place, write about "the underworld" or "the netherworld" without qualification. In articles I've written, I've avoided that pitfall by writing "the Duat". But in some sources—possibly in John Coleman Darnell's book on the "enigmatic" netherworld books, which I obtained recently—I think I've seen it said that the Duat is not, or not always, synonymous with the entire underworld/netherworld/place full of dead souls and demons and gods being reborn. Which would make it a real pain to figure out what this article should be called. A. Parrot (talk) 17:13, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

@A. Parrot thank for that. Wikifan1388 (talk) 12:13, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

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Incongruous Definitions of the Egyptian Word "Akh"

Section: 3; Paragraph: 1 defines the Egyptian Work "Akh" or "ꜣḫ" as "the effectiveness of the dead", however, various online resources give a very different understanding of the word than the article proposes. Referred to as the "intellect" in other parts of Wikipedia, the Akh is described by scholarary articles as the part of the soul that can observe and participate in the living realm. It can effectively be seen as the soul's self-awareness, consciousness, or, as on Wikipedia, intellectual thought. The definition of "Akh" given in this article is inaccurate and should be removed or replaced with a more accurate definition. Vepuei (talk) 10:48, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

12 areas of Duat

What happens in the specific areas and what trials take place in egyptian mythology? 2601:247:C000:1030:2DB1:6015:1DB9:D249 (talk) 01:30, 24 May 2024 (UTC)