Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Casualties of the September 11, 2001 attacks
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This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page, if it exists; or after the end of this archived section. The result of the debate was transwiki to 11 September wiki. — Trilobite (Talk) 7 July 2005 15:06 (UTC)
Casualties of the September 11, 2001 attacks, Casualties of the September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attacks: FDNY, Casualties of the September 11, 2001 attacks: plane passengers
[edit]Keep - Lest We Forget. Shouldn't this be in the memorial wiki? WP:NOT a memorial. Radiant_* 08:48, May 18, 2005 (UTC)
Keep. I can imagine a lot of people turning to Wikipedia for these lists. I at least feel that "Wikipedia is not a memorial" refers to obituaries of people who were not particularily notable and whos' deaths are not notable. Although most people on this list are not notable except for having perished in the 9/11 attacks, their deaths are. Sjakkalle 11:15, 18 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]- It's sad when people die, especially as the result of violence, but most individuals who perished in those attacks are not more notable than people who die of violence every day. If these sorts of causualty lists are to be in WP, then we need lists of victims of every such tragedy in WP. I think this is not a good idea. Quale 15:05, 18 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- September 11 was not just any tragedy. Nevertheless, I have read the comments of Geogre and MacGyverMagic. I think that these lists belonged in some sort of wiki, and if they're in WikiMemorial that is okay as long as we have an external link to those lists in the September 11 terrorist attacks article on WIkipedia. Alright: merge per MacGyverMagic's proposal. Sjakkalle 06:28, 19 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- It's sad when people die, especially as the result of violence, but most individuals who perished in those attacks are not more notable than people who die of violence every day. If these sorts of causualty lists are to be in WP, then we need lists of victims of every such tragedy in WP. I think this is not a good idea. Quale 15:05, 18 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: Wikipedia already has the lists in Wikimemorial. That's why we don't recreate this, why we don't need mass lists. This is duplicate material. Also, the "not a memorial" was a policy that came about specifically to deal with the 9/11 victims. Geogre 11:31, 18 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete for reasons stated by Geogre. 23skidoo 13:02, 18 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per Geogre. Quale 13:11, 18 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep — not only out of respect for those killed, but also because I would expect to find this information in Wikipedia. — Jesse's Girl 13:55, 18 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]- I now agree With BD2412 and MacGyverMagic, I want to see these merged into Casualties of the September 11, 2001 attacks which will direct readers to the appropriate page of the September 11 wiki. However, I am nevertheless appalled that anyone would show such disrespect for the dead and for my nation by nominating these for deletion. — Jesse's Girl | Please talk! 19:00, 20 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge all three of these into one article that directs visitors to Wikimemorial. The average websurfer probably knows of Wikipedia by now, but has not heard of the other wikiprojects - this is an opportunity to expose them to the wider world of wiki. -- BD2412 talk 13:57, 2005 May 18 (UTC)
- Merge with sep11:In_Memoriam--ClemMcGann 15:07, 18 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per george, but merge any unduplicated material per ClemMcCann --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 15:34, May 18, 2005 (UTC)
- Can these be redirected? Average Earthman 16:31, 18 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge all articles (redirect some if needed) into one article - preferably Casualties of the September 11, 2001 attacks - that provides a short definition and a link to the memorial wiki. Mgm|(talk) 17:03, May 18, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete Stancel 00:17, 19 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete and redirect to some sort of soft link to the memorial wiki. Is this a recreation of previously deleted material? --TenOfAllTrades (talk/contrib) 01:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as unnecessary duplication. Megan1967 05:24, 19 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge them all as above, and merge and delete the subpages too. Links to the sep11 wiki should be more prominent, perhaps as part of the infobox on the article series? --bainer 14:35, 19 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge as above. Jayjg (talk) 18:42, 20 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Transwiki to Wikisource. Sep11 wiki should die. --SPUI (talk) 23:12, 21 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Transwiki to Wikisource. Sep11 wiki should die. --Evil Monkey∴Hello 23:16, May 21, 2005 (UTC)- Changing my vote to plain Delete. Evil Monkey∴Hello July 7, 2005 07:31 (UTC)
- Transwiki to Sep11 wiki, then entrust content of said wiki to someone else to maintain, then delete it. Wikipedia is not a memorial, and memorial pages belong neither in Wikipedia itself, nor in POV spin-offs. — Trilobite (Talk) 23:20, 21 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Nearly a duplication. Not necessary. -- Herrhav0k 14:22, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. - FrancisTyers 16:26, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Delete as per Quale. Do you want to find out every death from every major tragedy, whcich would also include WWII's genocide? No, maybe move it to Wikimemorial, because 9/11 was a tragic event, but not every dead person can be on Wikipedia. Supersaiyanplough|(talk) 10:42, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Merge Use this page to redirect to the Wikimemorial page. -- Drew 17:55, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Merge As above. DamianFinol
- Keep. Those murdered in America's tragedy at the very least deserve to be mentioned in encyclopedias. -- OldRight 7 July 2005 06:56 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be placed on a related article talk page, if one exists; in an undeletion request, if it does not; or below this section.