Talk:Sabre (travel reservation system)

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On 18 June 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Sabre (computer system) to Sabre (travel reservation system). The result of the discussion was moved.

A TPF application?

Sabre was built on top of TPF, right?

If so, we should probably mention this.

Atlant 21:50, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Some current version of it could conceivably be, but the original predates System 360, of which TPF is apparently a descendant. I believe the original was largely (or exclusively) written in assembler, and in that era probably directly on the metal with no OS as such. PeteVerdon 16:02, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, PeteVerdon!

Atlant 16:23, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Before TPF it was ACP (Airline Control Program), jointly developed by American Airlines and IBM. TulsaTV 04:24, 20 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And what about EDS? there is nothing here at all —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.193.213.26 (talk) 16:29, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Location of original SABRE systems

I have it on very good authority that the twin 7090s were located in Briarcliff Manor, about 2 miles from here. ;-) I have marked the building, which still stands, in Wikimapia. Search for SABRE. Capek 21:59, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

SABRE Acronym

I lot of old timers here at AA seem to remember the acronym being short for Semi-Automated Business Reservation Environment, not Research Environment. While it was based on SAGE (Semi-Automated Ground Environment), the purpose of SABRE was reserving seats not researching them. I'll drop by the c r smith museum and verify. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.9.56.131 (talk) 21:55, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Relative Dollar Value in History Section

A paragraph in the History Section states:

"A formal development arrangement was signed in 1957, and the first experimental system went online in 1960, based on two IBM 7090 mainframes in a new data center located in Briarcliff Manor, New York. The system was a success. Up until this point it had cost the astonishing sum of $40 million to develop and install (about $350 million in 2000 dollars). ...."

I'm wondering if the $350 million adjusted dollar value is correct. Using the calculator at http://www.measuringworth.com/uscompare/, I get:

In 2000, $40,000,000.00 from 1960 is worth:

$233,000,000.00 using the Consumer Price Index
$191,000,000.00 using the GDP deflator
$270,000,000.00 using the value of consumer bundle
$275,000,000.00 using the unskilled wage
$484,000,000.00 using the nominal GDP per capita
$756,000,000.00 using the relative share of GDP

Relative monetary value is a complicated issue, of course, but I would think that most Wiki readers would want a value either more consumer oriented (the first four estimtes) -- a value that relates to their daily lives, that is, their own purchasing power -- or more large-scale spending oriented (the last two estimates) -- a value that relates to big corporate / government purchasing power.

Having a value in the middle of the two groups ($350M) seems to me quite confusing. Morsedl (talk) 03:23, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Direct Connect

The last paragraph states "Sabre, Expedia, Orbitz and some consumer advocates think that American's tactics with Direct Connect are aimed at making fare comparisons harder... " There is no other mention of "Direct Connect" in this article. What is it and what claims are the critics making?

50.10.151.236 (talk) 11:03, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Timeout

A review of 3+ years prior to the "close connection" HatNote shows that the major wordings were already there. 5+ years of trimmings have removed the WP:ADVERT situation. The "connection" review includes having looked at the article's history dating back to 2004. The single edit by the identified "Connected contributor|Skip9375" was also WP:ADVERT-like (and has been removed) Pi314m (talk) 22:18, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Travicom/Boadicea?

I heard somewhere that one of the predecessors to British Airways, BOAC (British Overseas Airways Corporation), developed a early computerised reservation system, called Boadicea (running on British built computer hardware). This included a transaction processing monitor capability which was later generalised and adopted for a few other uses (certainly military supply chain), and non-airline uses of the TPM software lasted well into the 1990's (with the software running using several layers of hardware emulation to allow operations on more up to date hardware).

Boadicea was presumably replaced by Travicom.

Boadicea would have been developed about the same time as Sabre, certainly within a few years (unlikely to pre-date Sabre but that assertion should be verified by research)

There are some references to Boadicea visible via internet search, but will need some effort to develop into a proper article to permit a "See Also" link. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.72.50.58 (talk) 00:39, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 18 June 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Consensus that the proposed name better reflects what Sabre is. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 07:11, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sabre (computer system) → Sabre (travel reservation system) – or Sabre (travel booking system). This is not about a particular computer or type of computer. It is about a travel reservation system that consists of many computers, communication links, various software programs, a database, etc. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 21:02, 18 June 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. >>> Extorc.talk 04:21, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As a professional travel agent, I would agree that this is a TRAVEL RESERVATION SYSTEM which links airline/car/hotel/rail companies' reservations systems under a single distribution network. It is more of a 'system' than a 'computer' as previously noted. 8.22.67.7 (talk) 16:06, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support. I work in travel, and use this system. It's more than a computer system, which can mean a multitude of things. Sabre is a travel reservation system and this should be in the name.--Dmol (talk) 21:08, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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