Talk:Sanctuary

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Western world

In its present state this article gives the impression that sanctuaries are only existant in, or relevant to, the Western world. Also, are 'animal sanctuaries' really notable? — a casual browser. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.139.82.191 (talk) 10:31, 6 June 2005

• I agree with the poster above. The harams of pre-Islamic Arabia, to take one omission, are not discussed. I'm also going to move the banner into article namespace, where it is typically placed. -Fsotrain⁰⁹ 13:58, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
• Why don't you just add the information? 199.200.243.253 21:07, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
• I wrote this article (or some of it) and am Western so I lack the information to add to the article. Please expand it to include Eastern history if you can. I believe animal sanctuaries are a type of sanctuary in the broadest sense of the word and though they are not relevant to the human sanctuary article they are included for completeness of the article on Sanctuaries ~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Whitehorse1413 (talk • contribs) 09:49, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

St. Peter's Basilica in Rome

"St. Peter's Basilica in Rome [...] which commemorate[s] the first Christian martyr".

This is an extraordinary statement. In the Acts of the Apostles, the martyrdom of Stephen is described in ch. 7, and Peter is alive and active in the subsequent chapters. And Stephen is therefore venerated as protomartyr, i.e. the first martyr (feast 26. December).

S.

Agreed, St. Stephen is commonly acknowledged as the first martyr. --Dante Alighieri 11:18 Dec 4, 2002 (UTC)

Modern sanctuary

Does not discuss this (e.g. modern attempts at use in Canada). --Daniel C. Boyer 17:18, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Moved this from the main article:

In the modern world, sanctuaries include such places described as "terrorist-" or "backpacker havens." Typically, these places feature minimal, but not absolutely non-existant, government authority. Thailand and other parts of Southeast Asia, Goa in India, parts of Brazil and South Africa, and to a lesser degree, some areas in Eastern Europe all offer a combination of good telecommunications and other infrastructure, low prices, and minimal government presence critical for fugitives, backpackers, terrorists, and other individuals needing to disappear for a year or a lifetime.

This sounds like original research. The word "sanctuary" can have almost limitless meaning, it all depends on what your are finding sanctuary from. For example, my bedroom is a sanctuary from my house pets. Should we also include that as part of a modern sanctuary? If the above is to be included, it needs proper contextual information (who uses the term, as of when, and why) as well as citations from authoritative sources. --Stbalbach 16:33, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

• This article was based on the definition of the word sanctuary which has 7 distinct meanings, but only 4 in common use so the article has 4 distinct sections for each meaning, divided into 2 categories: human and non-human. This is a property of the word sanctuary. It just happened this way. Yes it can mean any safe place, and therefore your bedroom is a safe place, but it states this in the very beginning of the article. ~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Whitehorse1413 (talk • contribs) 09:59, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

I'll dig up citations, but for starters, the problem is not of limitless meaning. Your bedroom is a sanctuary just for you or your household pets. These sanctuaries are globally defined, well-known within the law-enforcement, political, and travelling community. Would "Lonely Planet" be considered a fair source, for starters? Best, - MPD 00:02, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Well, the word sanctuary can be used by anyone in a dictionary definition sense. You could have "Aunt Sue's Homeless Sanctuary" for homeless people. The word is applied broadly. If the concept is Safe haven on a country basis, then that would be a specific article (an article which needs help). Im not sure if you could make an encyclopedia article from it, perhaps list all the countries recognized as safe havens, give some history of the term like when it was first used (see OED), some examples of usage by authoritative sources like politicians. --Stbalbach 16:35, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

OK, Safe haven does seem like the appropriate location for modern sanctuaries, with a "see also" link from sanctuary and haven to this article. Shall we wait for one more opinion before proceeding? There's certainly no rush. -MPD 00:28, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

I would like to question the terminology "right of asylum" in mediaeval times and the Dark Ages. In what manuscript or book predating, say, Louis XIV, can I find the terminology "right of asylum" (bearing in mind that right up until today asylum is normally a place for lunatics and was even moreso in those times). David Lauder 09:22, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

The word 'asylum' has its origins in the Greek word 'asulon', meaning refuge. krikkert (Talk) 11:43, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

The right of asylum, in the present day meaning of the word, indicates a fundamental human right to seek refuge from oppression (usually political). As this is a fundamental human right, it comes from natural law and predates any books. As far as medieval times, this would be more like the church asylum and you would need to look into church records up until about 100 A.D.

~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Whitehorse1413 (talk • contribs) 10:09, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Genuflection

The parenthetical definition of genuflection, to "bow by bending the knee and inclining the head" corresponds neither to my experience nor to the Wikipedia description of genuflection. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.244.76.39 (talk) 23:02, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Added link to Genuflection. Let the future editors edit the above reference in the article.--TGC55 (talk) 22:35, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Shrine

Must be compared with the concept of Shrine, to see differences between them botth.--Lagoset (talk) 22:55, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Shrine and Sanctuary

Which is the difference(s) between a Shrine and a Sanctuary?. --Lagoset (talk) 10:55, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

I think the articles make the distinction clear: sanctuaries need not be religious, and shrines need to be safe places. --Palnatoke (talk) 07:25, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Religious sanctuary

This section focuses almost exclusively on the use of the term in the western Christian religious framework and should be expanded or modified to include information regarding other religious traditions as found at the Holy of Holies, Honden, Sanctum sanctorum, and Garbhagriha pages with equal weight. Darker Dreams (talk) 01:59, 19 May 2023 (UTC)