Talk:Henry Frederick, Prince of Wales

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I'm wondering, now, whether I was sensible to put this entry under this title. I wanted to put it under "Henry Stuart" (which would have required disambiguation with Lord Darnley) but that seemed to clash with the agreed standards. Deb 20:46 Apr 14, 2003 (UTC)

Where did Henry Frederick, Prince of Wales die?

The article states that Henry was born at Sterling Castle, but where did he die? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.15.24.249 (talk) 23:07, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Betrothals?

Who did his parents want him to marry? Sceptik (talk) 23:34, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't read about this since before the Internet was invented, but I think it was Henrietta Maria, who later became queen of England as the wife of Henry Frederick's younger brother. Prince Henry, on having a Roman Catholic wife proposed to him, indignantly replied that, sooner than that two religions should cohabit in his bed, he would go to Germany and not return until he was safely married to a German Protestant princess. Affairs were at this stand when he suddenly took ill and died. The implications are obvious. Committed to a firmly Protestant policy, Henry, as king, would have had to rule in harmony with parliament, and the pre-eminence of the House of Commons, achieved with so much bloodshed and turmoil, might have evolved naturally. J S Ayer (talk) 14:17, 7 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New file File:Henry, Prince of Wales by Marcus Gheeraerts the Younger.jpg

File:Henry, Prince of Wales by Marcus Gheeraerts the Younger.jpg|right|thumb]] Recently the file File:Henry, Prince of Wales by Marcus Gheeraerts the Younger.jpg (right) was uploaded and it appears to be relevant to this article and not currently used by it. If you're interested and think it would be a useful addition, please feel free to include it. Dcoetzee 23:25, 19 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I added the portrait (and delinked the picture on this page -- no longer useful now that it's on the article page) -- Reconsideration (talk) 22:23, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New section on "Literature occasioned by the prince's death"

I came across information about sermons and prose works published in connection with the prince's death and knew of a source (The Concise Oxford Chronology of English Literature) that had information on seven poems published about the death, so I added all that into a new section on literature.

It's a bit long in relation to the whole article, but I think it's actually not too much WP:WEIGHT to apply. The subject's influence on the wider world (aside from making way for his younger brother to ascend the throne) likely was greatest in his death. The poems were by some prominent poets of that time. The quotes from the sermons seem to be worth adding, but they could be cut back, and perhaps some quotes from the poems could be added.

There likely are passages in biographies of Charles I and in history books speculating on how history might have changed if Henry hadn't died. Adding that would be extremely valuable. -- Reconsideration (talk) 22:23, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Music about Henry Frederick

Is it worth mentioning the lament Weepe forth your Teares by John Ward (composer) (1571 – 1638)? It's a choral (SSATTB) work mourning the fact that "Death hath slaine/ Prince Henery", and there aren't any other likely mournable Prince Henrys in the period in which Ward was composing. The score is contained in Noah Greenberg's anthology An English Medieval and Renaissance Song Book: Part Songs and Sacred Music for One to Six Voices from Dover Publications Inc. (September 2000, ISBN-13: 978-0486413747) --Kay Dekker (talk) 21:36, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"ich dien" Question.

If you enlarge the image of Henry Fredrick with his hand on his sword you will notice that he has one foot solidly on a shield with three feathers and the words "ich dien". I looked up this phrase(which is German for "I serve") and found that it is a historical motto for the Prince of Wales and that the three feathers are also Wales related. This puzzles me for the obvious reason that Henry Frederick WAS the Prince of Wales. I wonder what the story is behind this? Charlie Thayer —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.100.202.207 (talk) 22:08, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Porphyria?

In the wiki of Charles I it says that brother Henry Frederick died of "typhoid, or possibly porphyria." This wiki sight mentions nothing of porphyria as cause of death. I looked into what porphyria is and if I'm not mistaken it seems that it would be pretty obvious if one suffered and died from it. What evidence is there about his illness and subsequent death? Was porphyria known about in that time and place, was it taboo, was it covered up and said to be typhoid, or is it just historians looking too hard for something 'more interesting'? Charles Thayer —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.100.202.207 (talk) 22:32, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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