Talk:Judo at the 2004 Summer Olympics
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Bronze Medals
[edit]Would somebody knowledgeable please explain in the article why two bronze medals are awarded? (I presume it's because no third-place bout is held between semifinal losers; but why is that? Other Olympic tournament-based sports do have a consolation match.) Doops 03:44, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- From the looks of it, the bronze medal winners must win their last matches (both of them) to win the bronze medal. Both semi-final losers must are sent down to the repechage which all the losing judokas are in, and they play the winner's there. Why the two winners dont play eachother though for the bronze medal is beyond me. Earl Andrew 06:33, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Yeah, now I see the repechage: stupid of me to write an offhand comment without looking into things at all. But I have to say: not only is it unclear (as you mention) why the repechage doesn't include a bronze-medal match, I can't even figure out who goes into the repechage. It doesn't seem to be set up quite like the "losers' bracket" of a classic double-elimination tournament. Doops 07:09, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- OK, here's the system. Kinda bizzare! A single-elimination format determines the winners of the gold and silver medalists, while a double repechage...determines the two bronze medalists. ... All athletes who lose to a main-draw semifinalist participate in the repechage of their respective pool. Following a single-elimination format, two repechage winners emerge, one from Pool A and one from Pool B. The Pool A repechage winner competes against the losing semifinalist from the Pool B main draw, with the winner earning one bronze medal; the Pool B repechage winner faces the losing semifinalist from Pool A's main draw for the second bronze medal. Both losers from the two bronze-medal matches place fifth. [Quoted from http://www.nbcolympics.com/judo/about.html] In other words, the eventual fortunes of the competitor who defeats you determine whether or not you're invited back to the repechage. Doops 07:23, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Wow! I sure hope I am as good as she is when I am 54 years old (and 90 years after I die)! Seriously, though... what is the procedure here? New article? How should we disambiguate the name? -- Ben 00:25, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
- I have set the link to Ellen Wilson (judoka). -- Jonel | Speak 01:18, 28 October 2005 (UTC)