Talk:Iraqi Governing Council

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From CNN "Mohammed Baker al-Alum, a leading Shiite politician, announced Saturday that he was suspending his membership in the U.S.-appointed Iraq Governing Council in protest of the massacre at the Imam Ali Mosque."

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leaders who were appointed by the Coalition Provisional Authority

When were they appointed? Who chose them, Bremer?

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My slant on the council is partisan, I admit. I'm a big fan of George Bush and a supporter of Paul Bremer.

I intend to revise the article to reflect my belief in a slow, steady progress from total US/UK dominance of Iraq to full independence. I will emphasize power held (or "claimed") by Bremer's civilian administration. I'll use words like granted by the CPA, etc.

AFAIK, Bremer's group will cede power to Iraqi civilians in stages, subject to BREMER'S opinion on whether the locals are ready and able to put democratic principles into practice.

Please, everyone, watch my edits closely to ensure that I don't indulge in wishful thinking or similar fantasies. And please help me refrain from slyly injecting pro-US propaganda into the articl too. --Uncle Ed 19:12, 2 Sep 2003 (UTC)

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What is the legitimacy status of this government under "international law"?

Name Change

After a little research, I'm pretty sure the official name was "Iraqi Interim Governing Council"(obviously emphasis added); however, I would suggest a move to Iraqi Governing Council, a very common abbreviation for the full correct name that gets many more google hits than either that or the current name. Of course the first line of the article would say the full name. Is there agreement?--Pharos 03:17, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Iraq Interim Governing Council → Iraqi Governing Council

I'm pretty sure the official name was "Iraqi Interim Governing Council"(obviously emphasis added), but the abbreviated "Iraqi Governing Council" is by far the most common form.--Pharos 02:24, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

• Oppose It seems that the form of Government in Iraq is progressing from the "Coalition PROVISIONAL Authority" to the "Iraqi INTERIM Government" and the next phase will be the "Iraqi TRANSITIONAL Government." Presumably, the last phase will be the permanent institution, considering this year they are planning to write their final constitution for the New Iraq. According to the U.S. Department of State's website, the official name of the council is currently Iraqi Interim National Council (IINC), however there are repeated (and probably more numerous) statements of the informal Iraqi Governing Council referring to that august body and to the Iraqi Interim Governing Council. The CIA World Factbook entry for Iraq only refers to it in the following quote: "Iraqi Interim National Council formed in July 2004" [1]. Thus, I feel that the articles should remain to be named Iraqi Interim National Council (IINC) and Iraq Interim Governing Council (IIGC) and the informal Iraqi Governing Council (IGC), in addition to both forms with the alternating Iraq/Iraqi respectively, should serve as redirects. As an example, the United States Congress article redirects to the body's official name as the Congress of the United States as stated in the Constitution of the United States (which is a redirect to the U.S. Constitution article), and the article for the Parliament of the United Kingdom (which really should be Parliament of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland which I started just now as a redirect to the shorter but would support a requested move to on this premise) is redirected to by British Parliament and others. For the purposes of edification, Iraq's legislative body will be renamed as the "Transitional National Assembly" subsequent to the results of this weekend's elections. —ExplorerCDT 17:05, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • You are misunderstanding the issue somewhat. The Iraqi Interim National Council is actually the legislative branch of the Iraqi Interim Government. The Iraqi (Interim) Governing Council preceded the the Iraqi Interim Government, which was formed on June 28. I also register disagreement with your stated general preference for full and obscure names.--Pharos 17:48, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
    • I'm not misunderstanding the issue, the media and even the U.S. State Department (as a simple search of their website will show) use the terms interchangeably with both the IINC and the IIGC. As to the other issue, register your disagreement all you want, 'tis your prerogative. Just as I expressed mine. —ExplorerCDT 20:09, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • I read the sources you provided carefully. Please understand the Iraqi Interim National Council is not the Iraqi Interim Governing Council, which was dissolved on June 28, although many members of the Governing Council became members of the new Iraqi Interim National Council after the handover to the Iraqi Interim Government. Let me quote directly from the State Department page you are apparentlty referencing to avoid all confusion: Dr. Raja Khuzai is a member of the Interim National Council (INC), which assumed responsibility for governing Iraq in June 2004, and a founding member of the Iraqi Governing Council (IGC).--Pharos 20:27, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
    • I don't doubt that, but the fact remains, the media, the state department, other government organs world wide, use "Iraqi Governing Council" as an informal name for both the current (well, until the results of this election) and the former legislative bodies. It doesn't exclusively belong to either the Iraqi Interim National Council or the Iraqi Interim Governing Council, and shouldn't be used as the article title for either of them. I'd say use the full names, and use Iraqi Governing Council to redirect to both IINC and IIGC, most likely by a disambiguation that states the informal name is used in reference to both.
• Support. Iraqi politics are confusing, to be sure, but five minutes of research is all that's needed to get this one straight. ADH (t&m) 12:28, Jan 30, 2005 (UTC)